Discussion Post: 2x01, "The War to End All Wars"

[wendelah1]

Welcome to Timeless season two. This is the discussion post for episode 2x01, "The War to End All Wars." It is meant for folks who are watching the show on the U.S./Canadian schedule, but you should feel free to join in any time after you've seen the episode. Please try to keep comments spoiler-free of anything that comes after season two, episode one. Thank you!

Air Date: March 11, 2018 in the U.S. and Canada
Written by: Arika Lisanne Mittman and Tom Smuts
Directed by: Greg Beeman

There are spoilers for future episodes in the Canadian promo.

Timeless Season 2 "Past Present Future" Promo (Global TV)

If there is a NBC promo apart from the "sneak peeks" and the trailer, I haven't seen it yet.

Timeless Season 2 "New Mission" Trailer

We're just 35 minutes away from air time for viewers on the East Coast so I'm hitting post. I'll come back and edit in links to reviews, recaps, and so on. Please please please leave any links that I've missed in comments. My google-fu isn't what it used to be.

Buckle Up, History Nerds — “Timeless” Is Back and As Usual, Gets the Facts Mostly Right (This is a new series from Smithsonian, which is why I'm highlighting it. History nerds unite!)


Timeless: In Season 2, the Villains Get Their Due (TV Guide)
Review: Timeless Season 2 Episode 1 (Den of Geek)
Timeless Season-Premiere Recap: Good Guys Revolt (Vulture)
Timeless premiere react: 'The War to End All Wars'(EW)
Timeless Season 2 Episode 1 Review: The War to End All Wars (TV Fanatic)
Timeless returns in damn fine form (AV Club)
Timeless Season 2 Review: The Series Returns With A Clearer Idea of Where It’s Going (Screenrant)
Timeless Review: The War To End All Wars-s02e01 (Nerdspan)
'Timeless' Season 2 Premiere Recap: 'The War to End All Wars' (TV Source Magazine)
Timeless Review (Tracking Board)
Timeless - The War to End All Wars - Review (Spoiler TV)
Timeless’ 2×01 Review: You Haven’t Lost Me (fangirlish.com) I love how obsessed this site is with our show.
Timeless 2.1: "Like Mein Kampf, by Philip K. Dick"(Paul Levinson's Infinite Regress)
Timeless Returns (History Professors from the Future) (Patheos)

Remember, if you can, watch in real time, tweet in real time, etc. If you're recording the episode to watch later, try to watch within three days. Those are the numbers that matter to the network because those are the numbers that matter to their advertisers.

Comments

[dariaw]

I loved this!!

lol Rufus calling out Wyatt's obvious feelings. I don't usually go for will they won't they canon pairings, but the sexual tension between Wyatt/Lucy is really good. Jiya/Rufus is sweet brainy love too. (I also ship ot3 and ot4).

The reunion scene hug was lovely.

I'm happy Flynn is there and hope he has interesting interactions.

Marie and Irene Curie are great.

I love how many badass women there are on this show, of different types of strength and different moral sides. Susanna Thompson, it was also discussed on twitter, is great at playing shady morally gray or evil but super smart scary moms - Arrow, Timeless, Kings... She's great.

That said, I thought Emma was pretty badass and scary last season - she came off petty and whiny and short-sighted this time - really, you're going to kill Marie Curie?? That might put a huge wrench in your plans to make precision strikes to the timeline.

I like the costumes and cinematography on the show too. And just in general, the show has a lot of heart.

[wendelah1]

I thought this was a good episode.

I don't think Wyatt and Lucy were ever meant to be a "will they or won't they" type pairing. I think they are more of an inevitability, as telegraphed by the characters' interactions and confirmed by Lucy's diary...at least according to Flynn. I agree, there is a lot of chemistry.

That said, I thought Emma was pretty badass and scary last season - she came off petty and whiny and short-sighted this time - really, you're going to kill Marie Curie?? That might put a huge wrench in your plans to make precision strikes to the timeline.

That was crappy writing for sure. Plus there is nothing stopping Emma from going back and finishing off the job. I thought there should be a scene whereby Lucy explains what's been going on and tells the Curies that they are no longer safe. Or shows us a future where seeing the time machine affected her work in some way. Something.

It does have heart.

[tinny]

as telegraphed by the characters' interactions and confirmed by Lucy's diary...at least according to Flynn.

Can you give me a hint where Flynn says anything about Lucy and Wyatt? I seem to have forgotten that, too. (Unless it's from s2 trailers, I haven't seen those.) The only thing I remember him saying early on is that Lucy will work with him, Flynn.

[wendelah1]

It was in an early episode--I just re-watched the first six last weekend. Let me think about that, and if I recall which episode, I'll let you know?

Here is where having transcripts online would make my life so much easier. TXF fandom has no idea how fortunate they are to still have that resource 20+ years after the series premiere. I cried when the transcripts for Fringe (and its entire Wiki) went down.